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rice said we cannot afford a irresponsible direction. they knew in the white house behind me this is a fight they could not have right now. >> the breaking news as we just heard it. thank you very much, big news right now, the un embassador from states, susan rice, withdrawing her name as a potential secretary of state to follow in the footsteps of hillary clinton who is stepping down. harris faulkner in for the "fox report" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. you can always get neil cavuto. we're an hour away from speaker john boehner going to the white house to hash things out. it's on top of events that have been going fast and furious on whether we get a deal at all. fox on top of what could be about to go down. welcome, i'm neil cavuto.
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this is your world. on the phone with us, chad on a deal that might be in the making. what are we to make of this private powwow when both these guys were talking past each other today. >> it's very significant they're going to meet in person. house speaker john boehner, his spokesman says the speaker plans to go back to ohio tomorrow and ohio has both cell phone service and airports so if they need to talk, it won't be a problem. but the fact they're talking is key. the house of representatives late this morning adjourned until monday. the final votes, everybody left. it's important to get everybody out of building. that gives leaders in negotiations wiggle room. it's similar to last year on the payroll tax debate which went up to christmastime. john boehner got everybody out and the deal emerged.
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it gives people the breathing room to potentially cut a deal. >> neil: just a couple of hours earlier, speaker boehner went before the microphones to say i'm heading back to ohio, the president has my cell phone numbers. he's not offered any cuts so the clear message was i don't know why i should stick around town. if something were to come out of this meeting, could you envision these guys not returning home to work through the weekend? >> reporter: absolutely. absolute. but again, there are options on the table. they've gone through this menu of options from the super committee, simpson bowles, they have all the parts in place, it's a question of picking which ones. what do they want to do on revenues, on reforming entitlements. all these options have been evaluated and it's a matter of plugging them in. then the big question comes, how do they get the votes.
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nancy pelosi said today look, we want to be careful. we respect the speaker's leadership but the speaker may need our votes to go forward. it's widely thought that there's going to be pretty good attrition on both sides of the aisle in the house and senate as to how many votes they would lose, historically speaker boehner has lost 25 to over 100 votes on key votes on his side of the aisle. so this is definitely going to take a bipartisan compromise. henry clay, the legendary house speaker, said compromise is negotiatinged hurt and both sides have to be hurt to get a deal. >> neil: we'll watch closely. that meeting less than an hour away. congresswoman, what do you make of these developments? >> well, i'm happy to hear that the speaker and the president will be speaking with each other again. it's difficult. it is very difficult because there are some very different
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thoughts. it is clear that some of us are concerned about the people, the working people, and some are not as concerned about the working people so that's where the line is drawn i wouldn't why are you casts republicans unconcerned about working people? they're trying to strike a deal like your side is trying to strike a deal. no one loves people less. >> i did not say republicans. because they are people on both sides of the aisle that feel very, very strongly about not punishing people that are already at the bottom of the barrel. and there are people on the other side, so it's a -- it's not so much whether i'm going to focus on party. though i think that speaks for itself. i'm going to focus frankly on how the frame of mind might be for the individuals. >> neil: but we don't have a lot of time for the interview and to
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get deals done. republicans offered $800 billion in tax hikes. they don't want rate hikes, devils in the details how you get past that. they turned back, the democrats, to say we want to see your cuts. what would you, congresswoman, put on the table when the congressional black caucus ruled out entitlements, many leaders in congress ruled out entitlements. where would you do some trimming. >> first of all, we have to think about revenue generation. we have cut to the bone. we're willing to look -- >> neil: where have you cut to the bone? where -- >> all the -- >> neil: under your spending. >> hold it. each time we cut, we're cutting jobs. when you continue to cut jobs, your economy is not getting better. people don't have money to spend, there's no demand for
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goods. manufacturing stops, so you have to consider that we cannot continue to cut jobs to get where we need to go. >> neil: does that mean -- i understand where you're coming from. does that mean you would be against any more cuts extending? that's not going to happen? i'm willing to look at cuts. >> neil: where would you look at them? >> there are a number of places. >> neil: like where? >> the first place, first thing we need to do is look at revenue generation. >> i know, you're right. but time's wasting. where would you be open to trimming spending? >> i'm open to trimming spending on all the tax breaks we're giving to the rich. >> neil: but that's the revenue issue. that -- you're free to have it. where would you cut spending outright? would you cut any entitlements?
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would you slow the growth in any of the entitlements? some colleagues are leery to address. >> let me say this, entitlements on the table, there are some places we can look at. we can look at trying to decide where we cut the income of persons using medicare. that would be one of the ones that where we could look at. >> neil: you would be against raising the age for medicare, even 20 years out? >> let me say that -- well, you know what? we cannot sit here and talk about age 20 years from now because the jobs will differ. i will not agree to raise the eligibility on people who work in mines, people who work in fire stations, as law enforcement officials that are high-stress. i will not vote -- >> neil: your heart might be in the right place but the
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republicans will fear this, what you're saying. they'll say the good congresswoman doesn't want to cut entitlements and doesn't want to raise the medicare age. they're saying we're putting tax hikes on the table and the democrats aren't putting anything on the table and there in lies the rub. >> what tax breaks are on the table? as long as i've been listening and i've been right here, they're objecting to having any type of modifications of the tax breaks for the very rich. >> neil: i think they're going cave. i think -- >> if they're going to cave, we'd be here voting on it. >> neil: but even when they cave, and they will, they're waiting for you to say, you caved on that, here's what i'm going to cave on for you and you didn't cave on anything. everything you said was taxes, taxes, taxes, not a word about -- >> you haven't heard anything i said because you never stopped
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talking and listened. you haven't heard anything i said. >> neil: what would you cut? >> i just finished telling you there were a number of things. >> neil: you told me things you would do to raise taxes. credits. >> we were -- you cannot talk about -- you got to talk about revenue generation. >> neil: i know but it's 100% of what you're talking about, congresswoman. >> it's not 100% of what i'm talking about. if you shut up for just a second. >> neil: you've got to tell me, i beg you, one thing where you would cut this, what would it be? >> you -- >> neil: you don't know, do you? >> yes, i do know but i have to have time to explain. i can't tell you i'm going to cut this and that. first of all it has to be a dialogue. we've not had that. we have to see what is being proposed so we can react. we have said what we're willing to look at. >> neil: you haven't done that.
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>> neil: first off i want to apologize to the congresswoman and to you who might have been offended by my interrupting but i wanted a simple answer. i joke i'm a busy super hero trying to cobble together a deal. we don't have a lot of time to cobble together a deal. we have to move fast. what you want to do here and we have to have a discussion, well, you have calendars and watches like i do. look what we're staring at. when your only idea is more tax hikes in the order of fairness it's not fair or right. both sides have to bring something to the table. both sides have to be specific and when they are not, it gets maybe ugly. but i keep telling you, i've
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done this to republicans and democrats, to those who say they'll outline revenues but never do, outline cuts but never do. i'm not red or blue, i'm green and i'm seeing red for the craziness of all the green but we got to do this sort of thing. we'll stay on it. you saw what happened outside this -- violent protest ins michigan but it's what happened to the next guest in the deal. clint is a hot dog vendor hired by a group supporting the right to work law to serve famous hot dogs but when union protesters tore his tent down he came under attack and now the story is getting out. thousands of dollars are pouring into donations to make things right. clint, good to have you. what happened, clint? >> first of all, afp hired me to
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sell hot dogs and that's what i do. i've been doing it 16 years. >> americans for pro prosperity. >> yes. >> and i set up about 10:00 tuesday morning and by 10:30 i was ready to serve. i served my first hot dog about 10:30. shortly after that, people were coming in, everything was going just great. about 11:30, quarter to 12:00 two guys came in, one had like a devil's mask on and the other guy had a face mask on. so they came in and he took his mask off. i thought it was a joke or something. like they was clowning around. i gave them a hot dog, both ate their hot dogs and three minutes later they were turning over the coffee urn next to my stand i had set up. by that time the protesters were
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cutting the tent and the groundskeeper, matt white, he said we got to get out of here. they've got knives, box cutters and they're cutting the tent down. and we got to get out of here. i tried to save my stuff on the ground but matt said you ain't got time. by that time i turned around and the tent collapsed. so i wind up kind of not the crawling out but limping out, really low out of the tent. >> neil: everything you had was destroyed. >> everything. >> neil: thousands of dollars coming in but people were -- what are they saying? >> they're so sorry for what happened to me. the people that done all this stuff should be arrested. it just wasn't right because i was just there as the hot dog vendor giving away hot dogs.
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supposed to have been a peaceful demonstration. >> neil: i'm glad you're all right and i'm glad -- it stinks you weren't treated right but be safe and be well. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> generosity of a lot of folks. it's been 40 years since that final footprint was left on the moon. now the man to leave it is leaving us with something to think about. >> how did we let this happen? we cannot put an american on an american piece of hardware today, a half century after we had gone to the moon. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.?
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>> neil: 40 years after man walked on the moon a lot of you angry it's been four days since
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our special and you missed it. it's making ron in alabama ill. i was sick, sick, sick, will there be a replay in jennifer, we had a dvr set and it didn't record. any chance you'll show is again in josephine, our cable company went off the air that evening. it was terribly disappointing. shirley, a grand reminder, the mud heads to credit size you, let them eat cake. you rank in the big three. besides that you're as cute as a bug's ear. it might be me, but i've never found a bug cute but i know the expression. i appreciate you're watching. calvin says if you don't rerun that special i'll never watch anything you do. maybe not never but please run it again.
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alex in philadelphia, i want to show my friends to prove you're a quality guy, weird looking but a quality guy. put it up so i can shut 'em up. okay, your wish is my command. as if i'm not busy enough on the super hear, help us on the cliff thing. an encore presentation will commemorate today when the final moon walk began. this day, four decades ago when gene cernan made history. >> as a kid watching it, on the moon, that last journey that was 40 years ago now. and we have as yet to return. other countries are looking at returning, india, china, maybe russia, not us. how do you feel about in a? >> pretty disappointed. i feel empty inside. we cracked the door open half a
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century ago. we were challenged to do something no one thought we could do by kennedy. we were challenged to do the impossible. half a century later, the leadership we took from the soviets we've given back to the same people, though we call them russians, full circle. we're here saying what are we doing and where are we going? by the way, can we get a ride to our space station? how does that make you feel? how does it make me feel, but you're an american. you're a taxpayer. you're -- you're as red, white, and blue as anybody i know and that's -- i get that comment from so many people around the country. what are we doing? where are we going? why aren't we? how did this -- how did we let this happen? we cannot put an american on an american piece of hardware today, a half a century after we
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had gone to the moon. >> there is orange fire -- soil, all over. orange. >> even more important i believe deep down in my heart we would be on our way to mars by the turn of the seventhry. -- century. it gave me 28 years to be proven wrong. i was wrong about my timing but i'm not wrong about the future and i can tell those kids in fourth and fifth grade, if you and give them the same opportunity someone gave me and inspire a dream in their hearts, like someone did with me. that's one of the reasons we're here today, they're the ones who will take us. we need to give them the opportunity, education, and inspire them to do things they didn't think ty could do. i was wrong in my timing but i'm going to be proven right before it's over.
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i may not be here, chances are i won't be here, but i'll watch it happen. >> we would like to leave immediately. >> okay. golly this time goes fast. >> you wanted to be out there on the moon all the time. it said you could have been endangering yourself overheating but you were having the time of your life. >> we were -- i told jack schmidt and ron evans i had never flown and i said we're only coming this ways once, enjoy it. and they did and i did. we did a ling singing, the merry merry monthly of may. >> i was strolling on the moon one day ♪ ♪ in the merry merry month of december. >> no, may. >> may. >> it was a natural response to the environment but the thing that's more nostalgic to me is the last step. because i started up the ladder and i looked down at my final
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footprint, and i knew i wasn't going back. i started up the ladder and i was looking for that proverbial freeze button because i wanted to keep this moment going. when i left the surface of the moon, i almost felt as if -- my arm was long enough, i could reach out and tuck it under my space suit and bring it home and say look at it. when you look at the earth hanging on the wall in a picture, the picture we took of the earth, you don't see what i saw. >> that's beautiful. >> we had to leave, it was time to leave. i asked myself what did it mean to us, to humankind this we have now left this planet and called another planet our home. not just my steps and my three days but what did it mean that
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we did this? what does it mean to future generations, what does it mean 50 or 100 years from now? i can only imagine people dreamed of the stars and going there some day. we did. >> hipty hoppe and over the hill. >> flat broke, deep in debt, the argument is even if we want to get back in space, we don't have the money. >> it's not so much how much money we have, it's how we spend it. i have an issue to a degree with where and how we're spending some of our money. it costs you and me as taxpayers in this country one half of one penny to support the entire space program. how many mouths is that going to feed? that money is spent on earth, produces jobs, creates technology that leads to other jobs. creates national prestige, international prestige. if you put a little box on the
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income tax return saying would you give 10 cents to america's space program, i think you would be astounded with how many boxes would get x'd. i get people your age, coming to me, 30, 40, 50-year-old young men and women saying captain cernan, thank you. for what? i'm an engineer. i'm an air force pilot. i'm a teacher, i'm an astronomer because of what you inspired me to do. it wasn't what i inspired them to do, it's what the nation inspired them to do and become. how much of is that worth? half a penny of every one of your tax dollars? i'll let you answer that. >> they said you showed signs as a young man of being fearless and a born leader. how would they know that? >> i haven't heard that. >> my dad always said, if i ever asked one thing of you, it's to
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do your best. you're not going to be better than everybody at everything but do your best and some day you'll surprise yourself. how right he was. i make a lousy politician because i would go out there and tell you exactly what i think. not what you want to hear. >> neil: you don't think people are ready for that? >> yes. oh, boy, do i think people are ready for that. i think people are ready for that. >> looking back at that flight, apollo 17, you were also on the moon longer than any human being in history, saying nothing of being the last. >> houston, the challenger has landed. >> roger, that's super. >> the first thing i remember is looking out at this mountainous valley and realize that i am now where no human being has ever been before. what i am seeing with my eyes had never been seen by human being in the history of mankind.
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at least that we know. i think one of the most rewarding thing is to share my experience and feelings with other people and try to answer some questions. i've been asked a million times, how does it feel to make that first step on the moon? neil, the first steps had already been taken before i got there, not just by neil but by everyone else who had been there before me. >> i would like to dedicate the first step of apollo 17 to all those who made it possible. >> last man to walk the moon. you look up at the moon. your kids look up, your grandkids look up at the moon. you were the last human being to touch that surface. how does that make you feel? >> humble. and i don't often -- i don't look up at the moon and say man,
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what a great guy you are. you were the last guy that went to the moon. i do it when you ask me. my kids, my grandkids, it's always been poppy's moon. my granddaughter who is 20 at texas a&m, she was give or take four or five years old, i held her in my arms and i said, ashley, that's the moon. and she's five and poppy went to the moon. she's listening and i have a habit of talking too much. i said and poppy walked on the moon. he lived on the moon. and the moon is way out in the heavens where god lives and i kept trying to -- maybe something will -- she remembers that. and then she closed -- she, poppy, i didn't know you went to heaven. >> we leave as we came and god willing, we shall return.
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>> neil: speaker john boehner is about to leave the capital headed for the white house to have a private meeting with the president. this did not long possible more
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than a couple of hours ago. speaker boehner said i'm looking for spending cuts from the president, i'm not getting them so i'm out of here. he's heading back to ohio but the president called him to the white house to hash things out and see where things stand as the clock continues to tick. the c.e.o. heads up the business rebound table and is very interested in how the talks progress. what do you think of the latest developments, james? >> well, listen, i think the fact that they're communicating is everything here. there was a stalemate a week ago. there's been a number of communications sense. the fact we don't know everything is thing and a hopeful sign. 5:00 on a thursday afternoon is a great time to meet. >> neil: why? >> well, i think it demonstrates people are willing to meet when the time it right to meet as
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opposed to having bureaucratically driven schedules. >> neil: you're an accomplished c.e.o., chairman, you know about meetings. obviously you don't call one just to sip coffee. so what do you do then? obviously the next stage is all right, john, they call each other by first names, you put tax hikes on the table, could you tell me how you're going to put the pedal to the metal and what kinds of hikes you're giving? he answers 800 billion, i might consider raising the rates. what about you, mr. president? what transpires? what has to happen? >> well, obviously there's prepositioning, there's positions staked out publicly. >> neil: we don't have time for prepositions. >> yeah. that's the point. the fact that the two principles are together now, i think
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something real could happen. i'm hopeful because as we've pointed out, everybody's got to give a little to get a lot. people have been driven more by the extremes, each other's positions and party and i think we're not going to get to a resolution unless everybody gives a little to get a lot. i think signs are hopeful. >> neil: well, i hope you're right. but i have talked to a variety of people on both sides about this earlier on with a democratic congresswoman who didn't want to give in on spending. she couldn't come up with a single example. there are many of you and many republicans who don't want to give an inch on tax hikes but you have to get something done. the fear i have is that we get a ma'am -- the revenues are loosely put together, spending cuts are promises more than an
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act of substance and the markets tank on that more than if there were no deal. >> listen, that is the -- probably the real risk. going over the cliff. there are cynics on both sides of the aisle and people who, as you point out, don't want to compromise at all who might want to take it over the cliff. but i think you're right. the risk is that the well-intentioned center don't have what it takes to get it done in a meaningful way. our position is that both sides give a little to get a lot but it has to be a market credible deal. where that's framing right now is substantial revenue increases and substantial entitlement cuts at the same time and simultaneous is important. >> neil: we've never done them simultaneous. we don't get the corresponding
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cuts in spending and that worries a lot of folks. how about you? >> well, listen, of course it worries me too. but remember, they put themselves in this position. >> neil: yes, they did. >> they thought that establishing see sequestration and draconian cuts, that is the fiscal cliff. they thought it would force action they were unable to take before. maybe they have put themselves in a position now where they've got to come up with something down the middle and market credible. i'm hopeful. i think the risk is what you describe. >> neil: we'll watch what happens. minutes away from speaker boehner meeting with the president. what is expected? what to expect by the end of the year? steny hoyer on whether we could be any closer to the deal. he is next.
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>> neil: we're hearing that speaker boehner is going to be en route to the white house soon. it's not far to his offices. i assume he can run the lights. but i don't know that. the house minority maryland democrat steny hoyer. how are you doing. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> neil: do you know anything about the meeting, what could or couldn't happen? >> no, i don't know anything more than you. it's a positive sign that the president and john boehner are sitting down. i've talked to both-of-them. they both want to get to an agreement. it's a positive, continuing sign they're meeting. nobody's walking away from the table. the stakes are very high here, the hopes of america are keen on us getting to success. and failure is going to be -- have real consequences, so i'm very hopeful that john boehner and president obama, the speaker
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and the president, and i'm -- are talking a way to get us to an agreement that congress can consider and hopefully pass so america will have the confidence that we have placed ourselveses on a fiscally sustainable path for the long-term. that's what america wants. >> neil: so you're not of the view some of your colleagues are, go ahead and risk the cliff because we can -- that is democrats, hatch together something to our liking? >> look, clearly both sides can argue if you go over the cliff or the slope, that's not going to happen. it's not harry and louise, thelma and louise. but certainly i believe and i know leader pelosi believes that going over the cliff, so to speak, will have adverse consequences for the economy and confidence the world has in it
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and we shouldn't do that. we want an agreement. i'm not one of those advocating as a strategy going over the cliff. >> neil: a lot of your colleagues, including the congressional black caucus and nancy pelosi says cool it with entitlements. don't go after them. they put the focus on -- as did the texas congresswoman. -- >> what i'm said all along is both parties have their interest. both parties have their perspective on how to get from where we are, from a fiscally untenable position in the long term to a position where we have a long-term fiscal path that makes sense for us and for future generations. in order to do so we need to look at everything.
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>> neil: that includes entitlements. >> okay. >> some say we have about 800 billion in revenues, you want double that but if you have 800 billion in revenues, saying speaker boehner spells that out and says i've given up the fight. rate hikes it is, obviously then he's going to need something for the pound of flesh he just put in. what do you think -- . >> there's no doubt about that but let me tell you why speaker boehner does not get specific on the 800 billion. if he gets specific, then before the negotiations are complete, he's tagged with you were for this or you were for that. and that's why democrats don't come up with specific cuts. though i will say that the president in his budget came up with very specific cuts. as you well know, a cut more from medicare from his perspective than the -- >> neil: but his budgets are
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unanimously rejected by both parties. >> neil, you've been around long enough. we voted on ronald reagan's budge in the 1980's, he got one vote, jack kemp, which was symbolic. both parties like to put the president's budget on the floor and -- >> neil: right, you're right. there's a little bit of kabuki theater but -- >> the real issue is -- >> neil: here's what they want to see. this is the time to get past vagaries. is it your feeling know the structure, how long it takes to market up a bill, get it out of conference, get it before a vote. isn't it fair to say it has to be done within days and if it isn't -- >> i think it's fair to say we need to get to an agreement in days. very frankly the paperwork, you and i both know we could pass a bill that says we put everything
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off for 15 days while we mark up the bill and draft it, putting it through. >> neil: so you could change your rules. >> of course you could. >> neil: that deadline is not hard and set. here's -- >> the deadly -- neil, to this extent the deadly is hard and fast. if we don't get an agreement, yes, i think you're going to run into a hard and fast deadline of december 31st when a lot of things expire. thanks that shouldn't expire. >> neil: but you, steny hoyer, are open to en-- the kind of things that some -- have not been open to within your party. by the way, the same applies to conservatives. speaker boehner, don't give an inch on taxes. >> both john boehner -- what i'm saying is both john boehner and i say, look, if you want to make a deal, you're going to have to consider what the other party wants, what the other side wants, what -- you have to get to an agreement. >> neil: what would the agreement be, one to one?
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>> look, i've been for bowls simpson and -- the outline, not the specifics. what they said is we need to deal with entitlements, we need to strengthen social security and medicare and make sure they're sustainable. >> neil: their ratio was $3 in spending cuts to 1 dollar in revenue. what do you think this will be? >> actually, frankly, as you probably know, neil, the bowles simpson proposal was closer to 2-1 than 3-1. >> neil: do you think the final package will be 2-1? >> i don't know. i know this, that frankly we ought to stop talking about the politics or ideology. we have a math problem in my opinion. the problem is we need to get -- you could pick your target. my target would be 70% of debt
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to gdp by 2022 or 2023. then work the math backwards and how you get there, what can you agree on that has that math work. now, if we do that, everybody's going to be disappointed with some things. there's no doubt about that. >> neil: the art of a deal. >> yes, if we get to an agreement, america is going to be a happy country. >> neil: steny hoyer, you're a busy guy. we appreciate you coming here and giving a framework. >> thank you very much. >> steny hoyer. he came up with ideas and options. it's all about options.
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>> neil: going higher in time for holidays. american airlines has a new fare structure. so confusing. it bundles
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additional fees. is it another hike? fbn is good at crumpling numbers and she has been crunching. >> i'm crunching. i like this, neil. i know it may not make sense initially, but what i like about it is it's transparent. it puts the cost of going from point "a" to point "b" and it makes it accurate. it puts it out there for everyone to see. it's clear. don't go in your wallet 15,000 times at 30,000 feet. i like it. >> neil: what is it? menu of options? >> what american airlines is pitching is three categories for the coach customers. super cheap and pay a reasonable amount. $48. you have don't pay for anything unless you want to change your seat. $68 for the medium cheap people. no change fees you get to board in group one. no bag fees as well. less cheap, the $88 club here,
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you get all of those things, plus you get extra frequent flier miles and a couple of extra drinks. it creates categories in the coach seating system. that is additional revenue for bulk of the passengers. >> neil: so they are not just bundling the nickel and timing. >> they are. but transparency and the whole experience of nickel and diming people are fed up. it doesn't reflect the cost of what airliners are doing. we have a game to compete for the cheapest fare on whatever website we are looking for but it doesn't reflect what it costs to fly. it costs money to check a bag. it costs money to get peanuts on a plane. you pay for that up front. they bundle it so you are not surprised when you get to the airport. >> neil: i want to switch to washington, d.c. and i want to look at the white house. the president called the meeting with speaker boehner. a little over an hour ago and
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he is going to get that meeting. speaker boehner making his way. ten-minute drive under the worst circumstances to get from speaker's office to the president's offices. i'm sure he will have an excourt and he doesn't have to worry about light. he will get there. the talk is they will do more than just talk. they are going to iron out where the key differences, and probably ask the republican what specifically are you doing on taxes? are you open to rate hike i want? then what the speaker gets out of the president? tonight, dick gephardt and speaker of the house on that, fbn. i always wait until the last minute.
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